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1.4Ghz Celeron or 1.0Ghz Coppermine

Postby Iznougoud » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:54 am

Went through a box of salvaged CPUs in the process of "refurbishing" an old PIII Coppermine system (1.0Ghz at the moment), and found that I do have a multitude of Intel PIIIs. One of which an Intel Celeron (SL6C6) at 1.4Ghz (and 100Mhz FSB for some strange reason). What I'm considering now is, would there be any point in replacing the 1.0Ghz Coppermine (133Mhz FSB) with the 1.4Ghz Celeron (100Mhz)?
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Re: 1.4Ghz Celeron or 1.0Ghz Coppermine

Postby MD_Willington » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:23 am

Celery with 100MHz bus sounds about right

If you can keep it cool, you can usually run the celery at 14x133 for about 1.8Ghz...
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Re: 1.4Ghz Celeron or 1.0Ghz Coppermine

Postby Iznougoud » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:54 pm

Keyword being to keep it cool.. But of course, at 1.8Ghz with a 133Mhz FSB, there would be no question of what's to prefer.. ;)
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Re: 1.4Ghz Celeron or 1.0Ghz Coppermine

Postby go_for » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:34 pm

A Celeron 1.4GHz is a Tualatin core, so the choice of motherboards is somewhat limited. AFAIK, the tualatin supporting boards were made only for a short timeperiod prior to the first P4s began their debut.
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Re: 1.4Ghz Celeron or 1.0Ghz Coppermine

Postby Mr.Scott » Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:05 pm

go_for wrote:A Celeron 1.4GHz is a Tualatin core, so the choice of motherboards is somewhat limited. AFAIK, the tualatin supporting boards were made only for a short timeperiod prior to the first P4s began their debut.

Exactly correct. I still have a couple Tualatin's, but nothing to run them in. :(
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Re: 1.4Ghz Celeron or 1.0Ghz Coppermine

Postby Iznougoud » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:07 pm

go_for wrote:A Celeron 1.4GHz is a Tualatin core, so the choice of motherboards is somewhat limited. AFAIK, the tualatin supporting boards were made only for a short timeperiod prior to the first P4s began their debut.

So, maybe this isn't a dilemma after all then :wink: Anyway, I better check what CPUs that motherboard supports before any further considerations. And what better way than to throw the Tualatin in for a test run..? :mrgreen:
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Re: 1.4Ghz Celeron or 1.0Ghz Coppermine

Postby go_for » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:55 am

And what better way than to throw the Tualatin in for a test run..? :mrgreen:

Yep, in this case. Just wanted to share a thought, might be nothing wrong with the CPU or motherboard if its just a case of Tualatin incompability, causing no POST.
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Re: 1.4Ghz Celeron or 1.0Ghz Coppermine

Postby Iznougoud » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:25 am

go_for wrote:/---/ Just wanted to share a thought /---/

And all thoughts shared, are greatly appreciated :)
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Re: 1.4Ghz Celeron or 1.0Ghz Coppermine

Postby Iznougoud » Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:42 pm

Ah well, as it turned out I have one CPU with no place to go. But that wasn't much of a surprise, was it? ;)
Primary: Gigabyte GA-790FXTA-UD5, AMD Phenom II @3.2Ghz, RAM: Corsair 1600Mhz, 8-8-8-24, 2x2Gb, GPU: Asus 4850 (1Gb), S-ATA 200Gb + 350Gb +2Tb, PSU: Corsair HX850W (+12V: 70A, +3.3V: 25A, +5V: 25A)

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